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Missing articles
This page, probably from the now-merged ClinMed project, seems to have a list of some thousands of articles about diseases that need started. Is there some reasonable place to link it on our project page? (We seem to have only started about one in six of the requested articles... I'm wondering how many of them are alternate names that should be simple redirects.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Infant formula
This should probably be considered part of WP:medicine (as long as we're not being reductionists). There's an IP unhappy with the presumed POV of the article and reverting. Worth more eyes for consensus? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
natalizumab
The natalizumab article has received recent attention and discussion, most well-meaning, but the " design-by-committee " result is an overall content with gross bias towards its media-sensationalized history and which has subordinated the therapeutic benefits to a single down-the-page paragraph. This is a travesty as it conveys an inescapable impresssion of " russian-roulette " to reading patients, their families, and even practicioners. See also Talk:Natalizumab. New eyes are desperately needed, preferably qualified and preferably with experience in MS treatment.....io-io (talk) 16:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Article needed: Blood product / Blood products
I suggest that we create a central article on Blood product / Blood products.
This is obviously a basic concept in modern medicine.
We apparently have over 170 articles that mention the phrase "Blood product" or "Blood products", though in only a few of them is it actually a redlink. (We can linkify the phrase in the others as desired.)
-- Writtenonsand (talk) 14:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
RfC on Orthomolecular medicine
See Talk:Orthomolecular_medicine#Request for comment on the attribution of criticism in the lead, all comments welcome. Tim Vickers (talk) 17:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
List of eponymous medical signs has many redlinks
List of eponymous medical signs has many redlinks, some of which will probably be easy to fix. -- Writtenonsand (talk) 16:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Category: Spoken Wikipedia requests
Lets get more medicine articles "spoken." Please tag articles with this category. Tkjazzer (talk) 21:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Allopathic
Wikipedia fairly often uses the word allopathic to describe physicians who are not osteopaths or homeopaths. This usage sounds a little dated to me. I think most MDs these days would describe their practice as evidence based instead of allopathic . However, DOs presumably would use the same term. Do you think it would be reasonable, when we are distinguishing between DOs and MDs, to refer to osteopathic physicians and non-osteopathic physicians as a somewhat more accurate alternative to osteopathic physicians and allopathic physicians ? Or do you think that would be interpreted as DOs on the one hand, and MDs and homeopaths on the other? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Current Usage of Allopathic in the United States
It is true that M.D.s and D.O.s would refer to themselves as evidence based. However, they are certain situations related to physician education, training, and licensure where the term "allopathic" is commonly used in the United States to make a distinction. In the U.S., the term is used to make a distinction not only between two types of degrees (MD & DO), but two types of exams (COMLEX & USMLE), two types of residency programs (ACGME & AOA), two matching programs (NRMP & NMS), two medical traditions/cultures, etc.
- United States Dept of Labor - "There are two types of physicians: M.D.—Doctor of Medicine—and D.O.—Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine. M.D.s also are known as allopathic physicians."
- Journal of General Internal Medicine (Harvard Med School Faculty) "Comparison of osteopathic and allopathic medical schools' support for primary care." PMID 10632817
- Journal of Vet Med Education "Part I: twenty-year literature overview of veterinary and allopathic medicine." PMID 18339961
- Journal of the American Medical Association. PMID 18270355 "National survey of deans of all 125 accredited allopathic medical schools in the United States."
- Journal of American Geriatrics. "Attitudes, experiences, and interest in geriatrics of first-year allopathic and osteopathic medical students." PMID 18086123
- National Residency Matching Program "The NRMP classifies SMS applicants into 6 applicant types: Graduates of U.S. allopathic medical schools. A graduate of a Liaison Committee on Medical Education (LCME) accredited U.S. allopathic school of medicine."
- Illinois State Legislature. Osteopathic and Allopathic Healthcare Discrimination Act.
- Michigan State Legislature "A health care corporation certificate shall provide benefits in each group and nongroup certificate for the following equipment, supplies, and educational training for the treatment of diabetes, if determined to be medically necessary and prescribed by an allopathic or osteopathic physician:"
- Florida State Legislature "The bill requires each Florida-licensed allopathic or osteopathic physician, in conjunction with the renewal of his or her license under procedures adopted by the DOH."
- American Medical Student Association. "AMSA RECOGNIZES the equality of osteopathic and allopathic medical degrees within the organization and the healthcare community as a whole."
- American Medical Association "Allopathic med school enrollment rises 2.2%"
- Annals of Family Medicine 4:182-184 (2006) "Aligning the Interests of Osteopathic and Allopathic Teachers of Family Medicine."
- American College of Physicians "But that growth is causing something of a schism between osteopaths and their allopathic counterparts. . . "
- Dept Health and Human Services, National Health Service Corps Scholarship Program "Allopathic Medicine: For students of schools of allopathic medicine pursuing the MD degree - MD"
- University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey "The National Resident Matching Program matches applicants with allopathic residency programs."
- Journal of the American Medical Association. "In this article we report the specialty choices of 2 groups of entrants to US allopathic residency programs: graduates of osteopathic schools of medicine and those of non-US medical schools."
- Electronic Residency Application Service (ERAS) "How much does ERAS cost? Allopathic programs: ERAS fees are included in your annual membership dues to the AAMC."
- New York Times. "Nationwide, there are 125 allopathic (traditional medicine) medical schools and 23 osteopathic medical schools."
- Yale University Undergrad Career Services. "Allopathic (M.D.) Medical School: The following information is in regards to Schools of Allopathic Medicine . . . "
- National Association of Advisors for the Health Professions
- Student Doctor Network "Some students feel that they need to take the USMLE in order to get accepted into an ACGME* (allopathic) residency."
Bryan Hopping T 20:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
<RI> We seem to be coming to a consensus that is, in general, all pejorative in meaning. Allopathic is just not a word I've ever heard (except in the links provided by Bryan) in standard medical terminology. Cedars-Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles is not called Cedars-Sinai Allopathic Hospital. "Western Medicine" implies that "Eastern Medicine" is either better or worse. "Conventional medicine" implies that physicians are so conservative, we'd never try sticking a small balloon in an occluded coronary artery to open it up. One of my favorite quotes is below:
Marcia Angell, former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine, states that "...since many alternative remedies have recently found their way into the medical mainstream cannot be two kinds of medicine - conventional and alternative. There is only medicine that has been adequately tested and medicine that has not, medicine that works and medicine that may or may not work. Once a treatment has been tested rigorously, it no longer matters whether it was considered alternative at the outset. If it is found to be reasonably safe and effective, it will be accepted."
There is really only medicine, and the other stuff that is untested by rigorous scientific analysis. I object to using any term that defines someone who accepts the scientific method along with sound reasoning and logic as anything but a scientist or a physician. Orange Marlin 20:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
"Although policy makers, social scientists, and others often refer to the MD profession as allopathic , this term is actually an historical artifact that does not reflect any body of beliefs shared by the members of this profession. (emphasis added) Norman Gevitz, PhD
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